Dr. Darrell Bock, executive director of The Hendricks Center, talks with Dr. Andi Thacker, assistant professor of Biblical Counseling, and Dr. Kelly Cheatham, director of Counseling Services at DTS, about the indicators and inhibitors of busyness, burnout, and apathy.

About the Contributors

Andi Thacker

Andi Thacker

As a professor in the Biblical counseling department, Dr. Thacker is passionate about teaching counseling students to integrate scripture and psychology and apply those concepts to real life counseling situations. In addition to her teaching responsibilities at DTS, Dr. Thacker maintains a small private practice in which she specializes with children and adolescents and supervises LPC-Interns. Dr. Thacker completed her training with a master’s degree in biblical counseling from DTS and a PhD in counselor education and supervision from the University of North Texas. She is a licensed professional counselor, a board approved supervisor, and holds multiple certifications in counseling. Most importantly, she is married to Chad and they have three children: Emerson, William, and Webb.

Darrell L. Bock

Dr. Bock has earned recognition as a Humboldt Scholar (Tübingen University in Germany), is the author of over 40 books, including well-regarded commentaries on Luke and Acts and studies of the historical Jesus, and work in cultural engagement as host of the seminary’s Table Podcasts. He was president of the Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) for 2000–2001, writes for the Christianity Today’s Places and Space series, and serves on the boards of Wheaton College, Chosen People Ministries, the Institute for Global Engagement, and Christians in Public Service (CIPS). His articles appear in leading publications. He is often an expert for the media on NT issues. Dr. Bock has been a New York Times best-selling author in nonfiction and is elder emeritus at Trinity Fellowship Church in Dallas. When traveling overseas, he will tune into the current game involving his favorite teams from Houston—live—even in the wee hours of the morning. Married for over 40 years to Sally, he is a proud father of two daughters and a son and is also a grandfather.

Kelly Cheatham

Dr. Cheatham is a licensed professional counselor and a board approved supervisor. He has extensive training and experience working with adults and couples with a specialty in marital therapy. He has practiced in a variety of clinical environments including private-practice, church counseling ministries, college counseling centers and outpatient counseling clinics. In addition to his teaching responsibilities, Dr. Cheatham serves as the Director of Counseling Services at DTS. He has presented to counseling professionals on various topics. His current areas of research include resiliency in marriage and families, and the integration of faith and psychotherapy. He is married to his high school sweetheart Gwen, and they have four children: Dalton, Drew, Emily and Luke.