Dr. Darrell Bock, executive director of The Hendricks Center, talks with Dr. Andi Thacker, assistant professor of Biblical Counseling, and Dr. Kelly Cheatham, director of Counseling Services at DTS, about the indicators and inhibitors of busyness, burnout, and apathy.

About the Contributors

Andi Thacker

Andi J. Thacker

As a professor in the Counseling Ministries department, Dr. Thacker is passionate about teaching counseling students to integrate scripture and psychology and apply those concepts to real life counseling situations. In addition to her teaching responsibilities at DTS, Dr. Thacker maintains a small private practice in which she specializes with children and adolescents and supervises LPC-Interns. She is a licensed professional counselor, a board approved supervisor, and holds multiple certifications in counseling. Most importantly, she is married to Chad and they have three children: Emerson, William, and Webb.

Darrell L. Bock

Dr. Bock has earned recognition as a Humboldt Scholar (Tübingen University in Germany), is the author or editor of over 45 books, including well-regarded commentaries on Luke and Acts and studies of the historical Jesus, and works in cultural engagement as host of the seminary’s Table Podcast. He was president of the Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) from 2000–2001, has served as a consulting editor for Christianity Today, and serves on the boards of Wheaton College, Chosen People Ministries, the Hope Center, Christians in Public Service, and the Institute for Global Engagement. His articles appear in leading publications, and he often is an expert for the media on NT issues. Dr. Bock has been a New York Times best-selling author in nonfiction; serves as a staff consultant for Bent Tree Fellowship Church in Carrollton, TX; and is elder emeritus at Trinity Fellowship Church in Dallas. When traveling overseas, he will tune into the current game involving his favorite teams from Houston—live—even in the wee hours of the morning. Married for 49 years to Sally, he is a proud father of two daughters and a son and is also a grandfather of five.

Kelly L. Cheatham

Dr. Cheatham has served in a variety of ministry, leadership and teaching roles in a various locations. In addition to his teaching responsibilities at DTS, Dr. Cheatham maintains a private practice in Dallas where he specializes in providing counseling to couples, adults and adolescents, as well as clinical supervision to counseling interns. He is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor and Board Certified as a National Certified Counselor. He is married to Gwen, and they have four children—Dalton, Drew, Emily, and Luke.